The Analysis of Roman Views and Opinions on Germanic Tribes: To what extent did the Romans respect the Germanic tribes, particularly as soldiers?
- georgebfoster14
- Mar 31
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Using WWII battles and US soldiers' views of their Japanese counterparts as a starting point, I explore Roman military engagements with Germanic Tribes and cultural attributions drawn from these battles. Researched through Latin primary sources and written for my IB Higher Level Latin Internal Assessment (IA)
Introduction
The Romans are known for their many conquests: Gauls, Carthaginians, Greeks, Iberians, etc. Yet the Germans famously avoided conquest despite the Empire’s resource supremacy, the most notable example being the destruction of three legions at Teutoburg Forest in 9 AD. Knowing this, I began to wonder if this distinction gave the Romans respect for the Germans. After all, I had heard stories about my grandfather fighting in the Pacific during WW2, and while the Japanese fought ferociously, stories of executing prisoners, mutilating corpses, and derogatory names hardly indicated respect. This caused me to consider how the Romans viewed the equally ferocious and seemingly barbaric Germans, and served as a starting point for this internal assessment.
I predict that due to Germanic culture, style of fighting, and supposed strength, there will be many examples of Romans acknowledging German valour, while simultaneously demonizing their culture and tactics. I expect to find several accounts detailing battles with the Germans, their subjugation, with a few noting their customs and appearance. Overall, I presume that while Romans frowned on German culture and lifestyle, they did grudgingly acknowledge the Germans’ warrior prowess.
Florus 1.45
Et prima contra Germanos illius pugna iustissimis quidem ex causis. Haedui de incursionibus eorum querebantur. Quae Ariovisti4 regis superbia! cui cum legati dicerent “veni ad Caesarem,” et “quis est Caesar?” et “si vult, veniat” inquit, et “quid ad illum, quid agat nostra Germania? num ego me interpono Romanis?” | The first battle against the Germans on this river was fought on the most just of pretexts, for the Aedui complained of their incursions. And how great was the insolence of King Ariovistus! When our ambassadors told him to come to Caesar, he replied, “Who is Caesar? Let him come to me if he likes: what does it matter to him what we in Germany do? Do I interfere with the Romans?” |
The first major encounter of the Germans is described as against an arrogant conqueror who openly mocked Rome, named Ariovistus. As King of the Suebi, Ariovistus had demanded that several Gallic tribes bordering the Rhine leave their land and make way for hundreds of thousands of Germans. While ironic considering their own presence, the Romans still viewed such a provocation and dismissal of their great civilization as insulting, especially from a barbarian.
Caesar Bellum Gallicum 1.39
Dum paucos dies ad Vesontionem rei frumentariae commeatusque causa moratur, ex percontatione nostrorum vocibusque Gallorum ac mercatorum, qui ingenti magnitudine corporum Germanos, incredibili virtute atque exercitatione in armis esse praedicabant (saepe numero sese cum his congressos ne vultum quidem atque aciem oculorum dicebant ferre potuisse), tantus subito timor omnem exercitum occupavit, ut non mediocriter omnium mentes animosque perturbaret. | During a few days. halt near Vesontio for the provision of corn and other supplies, a panic arose from inquiries made by our troops and remarks uttered by Gauls and traders, who affirmed that the Germans were men of a mighty frame and an incredible valour and skill at arms; for they themselves (so they said) at meetings with the Germans had often been unable even to endure their look and the keenness of their eyes. So great was the panic, and so suddenly did it seize upon all the army, that it affected in serious fashion the intelligence and the courage of all ranks. |
Caesar notes how the Germans' reputation as warriors was such that “a panic arose… so suddenly did it seize upon all of the army.” At this time, Caesar was fighting the Gallic Wars (58-50 BC) and had already faced the Gauls (Helveti) before the Suebi. As such, his troops were combat-experienced, yet still feared the Germans from Gallic rumors and previous wars where Roman Consuls such as Papirus Carbo had been captured. To summarize, their reputation in battle was fearsome.
Caesar Bellum Gallicum 6.24
Ac fuit antea tempus cum Germanos Galli virtute superarent, ultro bella inferrent, propter hominum multitudinem agrique inopiam trans Rhenum colonias mitterent. Itaque ea quae fertilissima Germaniae sunt loca circum Hercyniam silvam—quam Eratostheni et quibusdam Graecis fama notam esse video, quam illi Orcyniam appellant—Volcae Tectosages occupaverunt atque ibi consederunt. (Quae gens ad hoc tempus his sedibus sese continet summamque habet iustitiae et bellicae laudis opinionem.) Nunc quod in eadem inopia, egestate, patientiaque Germani permanent, eodem victu et cultu corporis utuntur. Gallis autem provinciarum propinquitas et transmarinarum rerum notitia multa ad copiam atque usus largitur. Paulatim assuefacti superari multisque victi proeliis ne se quidem ipsi cum illis virtute comparant. | There was a time in the past when Gauls outdid Germans in courage, attacked them at will, and established settlements across the Rhine, so numerous were they and in such need of land. Thus the most fertile areas in Germania, around the Hercynian Forest—I see that this forest is known by report to Eratosthenes and certain of the Greeks, and they call it “Orcynian”—were seized and settled by the Volcae Tectosages. (This people keeps to the site even now and enjoys great renown for their justice and military excellence.) Since Germans are still subject to scarcity, privation, and hardship, they eat and maintain their bodies as before. Gauls, however, have much more to enjoy and use thanks to the proximity of our provinces and familiarity with overseas imports. After having gradually gotten used to losing and being defeated in numerous battles, even they don’t compare themselves to Germans in courage. |
Directly contrasting the Gauls and Germans, Caesar describes how while the Gauls were initially stronger, their proximity to civilization softened them, in contrast to the Germans, who continued to live in rough conditions, able to “wear nothing, even in the coldest locations” and “are much engaged in hunting…[which] nurses their strength and makes men of immense bodily stature. It should be noted, however, that Caesar’s goal here is to justify why he only conquered Gaul. By describing Germans as immensely strong and animalistic, he argues it wasn’t possible or reasonable to conquer them.
Suetonius Divus Augustus 2.21
Germanosque ultra Albim fluvium summovit, ex quibus Suebos et Sigambros dedentis se traduxit in Galliam atque in proximis Rheno agris conlocavit. Alias item nationes male quietas ad obsequium redegit. Nec ulli genti sine iustis et necessariis causis bellum intulit, tantumque afuit a cupiditate quoquo modo imperium vel bellicam gloriam augendi, ut quorundam barbarorum principes in aede Martis Ultoris iurare coegerit mansuros se in fide ac pace quam peterent, a quibusdam vero novum genus obsidum, feminas, exigere temptaverit, quod neglegere marum pignera sentiebat | and forced the Germans back to the farther side of the river Albis, with the exception of the Suebi and Sigambri, who submitted to him and were taken into Gaul and settled in lands near the Rhine. He reduced to submission other people, too, who were in a state of unrest. But he never made war on any nation without just and due cause, and he was so far from desiring to increase his dominion or his military glory at any cost, that he forced the chiefs of certain barbarians to take oath in the temple of Mars the Avenger that they would faithfully keep the peace for which they asked; in some cases, indeed, he tried exacting a new kind of hostages, namely women, realizing that the barbarians disregarded pledges secured by males; |
Under Augustus, Suetonius describes how, despite the barbaric nature Caesar presented, the Germans could be brought to submission from a “state of unrest,” albeit through " hostages” and forcing chiefs to “take oath in the temple of Mars.” At this point, many Germans sought entry into the empire, seeking settlement or safety from rivals. And while the Romans allowed this, they weren’t so trusting that they wouldn’t take hostages to guarantee loyalty from new subjects.
Velleius Paterculus 2.119
Exercitus omnium fortissimus, disciplina, manu experientiaque bellorum inter Romanos milites princeps, marcore ducis, perfidia hostis, iniquitate fortunae circumventus, cum ne pugnandi quidem egrediendive5 occasio nisi inique, nec in quantum voluerant, data esset immunis, castigatis etiam quibusdam gravi poena, quia Romanis et armis et animis usi fuissent, inclusus silvis, paludibus, insidiis ab eo hoste ad internecionem trucidatus est, quem ita semper more pecudum trucidaverat, ut vitam aut mortem eius nunc ira nunc venia temperaret. Duci plus ad moriendum quam ad pugnandum animi fuit: quippe paterni avitique successor exempli se ipse transfixit. | An army unexcelled in bravery, the first of Roman armies in discipline, in energy, and in experience in the field, through the negligence of its general, the perfidy of the enemy, and the unkindness of fortune was surrounded, nor was as much opportunity as they had wished given to the soldiers either of fighting or of extricating themselves, except against heavy odds; nay, some were even heavily chastised for using the arms and showing the spirit of Romans. Hemmed in by forests and marshes and ambuscades, it was exterminated almost to a man by the very enemy whom it had always slaughtered like cattle, whose life or death had depended solely upon the wrath or the pity of the Romans. The general had more courage to die than to fight, for, following the example of his father and grandfather, he ran himself through with his sword. |
At Teutoburg Forest, Paterculus describes how the well-trained Roman army was destroyed due to Varus’s poor leadership, Armenius’ treachery (perfidia hostis), and the dense terrain, which didn’t favor Roman tactics. As Oldfather puts it, it wasn’t a “fair trial of strength.” Despite fighting undisciplined and ill-equipped Germans, the Roman force was relatively small (only three legions), led by an inexperienced Varus, and slowly exhausted over days. From a Roman viewpoint, the barbarians had essentially cheated and gotten lucky.
Florus 2.30
At illi, qui iam pridem robigine obsitos3 enses inertesque maererent equos, ut primum togas et saeviora armis iura viderunt, duce Armenio4 arma corripiunt…Nihil illa caede per paludes perque silvas cruentius, nihil insultatione barbarorum intolerabilius, praecipue tamen in causarum patronos. Aliis oculos, aliis manus amputabant, uni os obsutunr, recisa prius lingua, | But the Germans who had long been regretting that their swords were rusted and their horses idle, as soon as they saw the toga and experienced laws more cruel than arms, snatched up their weapons under the leadership of Armenius… Never was there slaughter more cruel than took place there in the marshes and woods, never were more intolerable insults inflicted by barbarians, especially those directed against the legal pleaders. They put out the eyes of some of them and cut off the hands of others; they sewed up the mouth of one of them after first cutting out his tongue, |
As Florus puts it, the Germans primarily revolted due to a sense of idleness (rusted swords or obsitos enses) and disdain for the bureaucratic Roman rule (experienced laws or saeviora iura). Simply put, war was preferable to peace, shown by a form of Germanic governance called the “Assembly of Warriors”, which discussed matters of “major importance” (primarily war). The atrocities, meanwhile, were cultural, with some Romans sacrificed on altars or affixed to trees. Yet if this was culture, the Romans reviled it, disgusted by the savage torture/mutilation.
Tacitus Annales 1.68
atrociora Inguiomero et laeta barbaris, ut vallum armis ambirent: promptam expugnationem, plures captivos, incorruptam praedam fore…Postquam haesere munimentis, datur cohortibus signum cornuaque ac tubae concinuere. Exim clamore et impetu tergis Germanorum circumfunduntur, exprobrantes non hic silvas nec paludes, sed aequis locis aequos deos. Hosti, facile excidium et paucos ac semermos cogitanti, sonus tubarum, fulgor ar-morum, quanto inopina, tanto maiora offunduntur,1 cad banque, ut rebus secundis avidi, ita adversis incauti. | Inguiomerus advocated the more drastic measures dear to the barbarian:—“Let them encircle the rampart in arms. Storming would be easy, captives more plentiful, the booty intact!”...But as they swarmed up the fortifications, the signal sounded to the cohorts, and cornets and trumpets sang to arms. Then, with a shout and a rush, the Romans poured down on the German rear. “Here were no trees,” they jeered, “no swamps, but a fair field and an impartial Heaven.” Upon the enemy, whose thoughts were of a quick despatch and a few half-armed defenders, the blare of trumpets and the flash of weapons burst with an effect proportioned to the surprise, and they fell—as improvident in failure as they had been headstrong in success. |
Years after Teutoburg, Tacitus details how, when caught on open ground, the Germans under Inguiomerus, too eager for the spoils of victory, faced defeat swiftly. As previously stated, the lack of trees and other incumbrances in the terrain certainly helped, but a key aspect was the German desire for “booty”. In contrast to the Romans, commanders like Inguiomerus were not "business-like military men,” and did not control men through hierarchy but rather through example and popularity. A key motivator for loyalty was plunder from war. Such desires made the Germans men who were more concerned with the result of victory than the road to it.
Tacitus Annales 2.21
Nec minor Germanis animus, sed genere pugnae et armorum superabantur, cum ingens multitudo artis locis praelongas hastas non protenderet, non colligeret, neque adsultibus et velocitate corporum uteretur, coacta stabile ad proelium; contra miles, cui scutum pectori adpressum et insidens capulo manus, latos barbarorum artus, nuda ora foderet viamque strage hostium aperiret… nil opus captivis, solam internicionem gentis finem bello fore | In hardihood, the Germans held their own, but they were handicapped by the nature of the struggle and the weapons. Their extraordinary numbers—unable in the restricted space to extend or recover their tremendous lances, or to make use of their rushing tactics and nimbleness of body—were compelled to a standing fight; while our own men, shields tight to the breast and hand on hilt, kept thrusting at the barbarians’ great limbs and bare heads and opening a bloody passage through their antagonists… “Prisoners were needless: nothing but the extermination of the race would end the war.” |
In another battle against the Germans, Tacitus again states that while formidable warriors, the nature of combat did not favor them, and that the Romans were brutal, with Germanicus sounding genocidal in his rhetoric (internicionem gentis). This echoes Goldsworthy’s, who describes how the two times Arminius risked a field battle, he was defeated, while the Romans had a policy of razing German land, intending to break morale. While different from the original description, it still remains that the Romans had no issue violently disciplining these people, especially since they weren’t “fit” for a traditional war with conventional field battles.
Tacitus Germania 1.37
sescentesimum et quadragesimo annum urbis nostra agebat, cum primum Cimbrorum audita sunt arma Caecilio Metello et Papirio Carbone consulibus. ex quo si ad alteram imperatoris Traiani consulatum computemus, ducenti ferme et decem anni colliguntur: tam diu Germania vincitur. medio tam longi aevi spatio multa in vicem damna, non Samnis, non Poeni, non Hispaniae Galliaeve, ne Parthi quidem saepius admonuere: quippe regno Arsacis acrior est Germanorum libertas, quid enim aliud nobis quam caedem Crassi, amisso et ipse Pacoro, infra Ventidium deiectus Oriens obiecerit? | Our city was in its six hundred and fortieth year when the Cimbrian armies were first heard of, in the consulship of Caecilius Metellus and Papirius Carbo. If we count from that date to the second consulship of the Emperor Trajan, the total amounts to about two hundred and ten years: for that length of time has the conquest of Germany been in process. Between the beginning and end of that long period, there have been many mutual losses: neither Sammite nor Carthaginian, neither Spain nor Gaul, nor even the Parthians have taught us more lessons. The German fighting for liberty has been a keener enemy than the absolutism of Arsaces. What taunt, indeed, has the East for us, apart from the overthrow of Crassus—the East which itself fell at the feet of a Ventidius and lost Pacorus? |
In the conclusion of Germania, Tacitus reflects how over 210 years, Germany has surpassed all other rivals in fighting for freedom, including Parthia and Carthage. Indeed, while these two enemies famously bloodied Rome, neither stopped Roman conquest, with even Parthia (killers of Crassus) contending with continued Roman interference. In Germany, meanwhile, excluding a few invasions by Germanicus, it was the decision of Augustus and Tiberius to keep the border at the Rhine. While they may be marauding barbarians, even Romans like Tacitus admitted they had not fallen to the Roman gladius.
Conclusion:
The Romans, despite acknowledging their warrior spirit, still labeled Germans as savages who lacked discipline and fought dishonorably. While there were the expected sources on battles against the Germans and aspects of their culture, there was little discussion of subjugation. This is primarily because, following the disaster at Teutoburg Forest, the Romans didn’t enter Germany, apart from Germanicus’ expeditions. The only mention of subjugation was related to Varus, and while German savagery was acknowledged, much of the blame for the revolt was laid on Varus. However, I correctly predicted that the Romans would blame defeat on German treachery and credit victory to German disorder. Many sources claim Teutoburg was the disaster it was due to the terrain of the battle and Arminius’ betrayal, while the subsequent victories of Germanicus are credited to the Romans' superior doctrine and discipline on open ground.
Similarly to how US soldiers viewed the Japanese, the Romans viewed the Germans as fierce, and while disgusted by some practices, they did respect them in battle. However, the Germans were as treacherous as they were strong, and their few victories were not from superior skill, but from their willingness to fight dishonorably. Furthermore, their lack of discipline was a weakness, as they often threw away tactics for plunder. Despite this, they were ultimately able to resist conquest, a feat so rare that even the Romans couldn’t deny grudging respect.
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